Does Compiz still cause a performance hit? Here's tests with multiple GPUs and drivers with Metacity and Compiz. More information in upcoming Phoronix.com article.
Processor: AMD Phenom 9500 @ 2.20GHz (4 Cores), Motherboard: ECS A790GXM-A v1.0, Chipset: AMD RS780 + SB700/SB800, Memory: 4096MB, Disk: 250GB Seagate ST3250310AS, Graphics: AMD Radeon X1950 Pro, Audio: Realtek ALC888, Monitor: DELL S2409W
OS: Ubuntu 10.10, Kernel: 2.6.38-999-generic (x86_64), Desktop: GNOME 2.32.0, Display Server: X Server 1.9.0, Display Driver: radeon 6.14.99, OpenGL: 2.1 Mesa 7.11-devel Gallium 0.4, Compiler: GCC 4.4.5, File-System: ext4, Screen Resolution: 1920x1080
Changed Graphics to AMD Radeon HD 4670 (750/1100MHz).
Changed Graphics to AMD Radeon HD 5450 (650/400MHz).
Processor: AMD Phenom 9500 @ 2.20GHz (4 Cores), Motherboard: ECS A790GXM-A v1.0, Chipset: AMD RS780 + SB700/SB800, Memory: 4096MB, Disk: 250GB Seagate ST3250310AS, Graphics: ATI Radeon HD 4600 512MB (750/1100MHz), Audio: Realtek ALC888, Monitor: DELL S2409W
OS: Ubuntu 10.10, Kernel: 2.6.35-27-generic (x86_64), Desktop: GNOME 2.32.0, Display Server: X Server 1.9.0, Display Driver: fglrx 8.82.8 Catalyst 11.2, OpenGL: 3.3.10524, Compiler: GCC 4.4.5, File-System: ext4, Screen Resolution: 1920x1080
Processor: AMD Phenom 9500 @ 2.20GHz (4 Cores), Motherboard: ECS A790GXM-A v1.0, Chipset: AMD RS780 + SB700/SB800, Memory: 4096MB, Disk: 250GB Seagate ST3250310AS, Graphics: ATI Radeon HD 5450 512MB (650/400MHz), Audio: Realtek ALC888, Monitor: DELL S2409W
OS: Ubuntu 10.10, Kernel: 2.6.35-27-generic (x86_64), Desktop: GNOME 2.32.0, Display Server: X Server 1.9.0, Display Driver: fglrx 8.82.8 Catalyst 11.2, OpenGL: 4.1.10524, Compiler: GCC 4.4.5, File-System: ext4, Screen Resolution: 1920x1080
Processor: AMD Phenom 9500 @ 2.20GHz (4 Cores), Motherboard: ECS A790GXM-A v1.0, Chipset: AMD RS780 + SB700/SB800, Memory: 4096MB, Disk: 250GB Seagate ST3250310AS, Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT 256MB (540/702MHz), Audio: Realtek ALC888, Monitor: DELL S2409W
OS: Ubuntu 10.10, Kernel: 2.6.38-999-generic (x86_64), Desktop: GNOME 2.32.0, Display Server: X Server 1.9.0, Display Driver: nouveau 0.0.16, OpenGL: 2.1 Mesa 7.11-devel Gallium 0.4, Compiler: GCC 4.4.5, File-System: ext4, Screen Resolution: 1920x1080
Changed Graphics to NVIDIA GeForce GT 220 1024MB (625/950MHz).
Processor: AMD Phenom 9500 @ 2.20GHz (4 Cores), Motherboard: ECS A790GXM-A v1.0, Chipset: AMD RS780 + SB700/SB800, Memory: 4096MB, Disk: 250GB Seagate ST3250310AS, Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT 512MB (540/700MHz), Audio: Realtek ALC888
OS: Ubuntu 10.10, Kernel: 2.6.38-999-generic (x86_64), Desktop: GNOME 2.32.0, Display Server: X Server 1.9.0, Display Driver: NVIDIA 270.30, OpenGL: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 270.30, Compiler: GCC 4.4.5, File-System: ext4, Screen Resolution: 1920x1080
Changed Graphics to NVIDIA GeForce GT 220 1024MB (625/400MHz).
Processor: AMD Phenom 9500 @ 2.20GHz (4 Cores), Motherboard: ECS A790GXM-A v1.0, Chipset: AMD RS780 + SB700/SB800, Memory: 4096MB, Disk: 250GB Seagate ST3250310AS, Graphics: AMD Radeon X1950 Pro, Audio: Realtek ALC888, Monitor: DELL S2409W
OS: Ubuntu 10.10, Kernel: 2.6.38-999-generic (x86_64), Desktop: GNOME 2.32.0, Display Server: X Server 1.9.0, Display Driver: radeon 6.14.99, OpenGL: 2.1 Mesa 7.11-devel Gallium 0.4, Compiler: GCC 4.4.5, File-System: ext4, Screen Resolution: 1920x1080
Changed Graphics to AMD Radeon HD 4670 (750/1100MHz).
Changed Graphics to AMD Radeon HD 5450 (650/400MHz).
Processor: AMD Phenom 9500 @ 2.20GHz (4 Cores), Motherboard: ECS A790GXM-A v1.0, Chipset: AMD RS780 + SB700/SB800, Memory: 4096MB, Disk: 250GB Seagate ST3250310AS, Graphics: ATI Radeon HD 4600 512MB (750/1100MHz), Audio: Realtek ALC888, Monitor: DELL S2409W
OS: Ubuntu 10.10, Kernel: 2.6.35-27-generic (x86_64), Desktop: GNOME 2.32.0, Display Server: X Server 1.9.0, Display Driver: fglrx 8.82.8 Catalyst 11.2, OpenGL: 3.3.10524, Compiler: GCC 4.4.5, File-System: ext4, Screen Resolution: 1920x1080
Processor: AMD Phenom 9500 @ 2.20GHz (4 Cores), Motherboard: ECS A790GXM-A v1.0, Chipset: AMD RS780 + SB700/SB800, Memory: 4096MB, Disk: 250GB Seagate ST3250310AS, Graphics: ATI Radeon HD 5450 512MB (650/400MHz), Audio: Realtek ALC888, Monitor: DELL S2409W
OS: Ubuntu 10.10, Kernel: 2.6.35-27-generic (x86_64), Desktop: GNOME 2.32.0, Display Server: X Server 1.9.0, Display Driver: fglrx 8.82.8 Catalyst 11.2, OpenGL: 4.1.10524, Compiler: GCC 4.4.5, File-System: ext4, Screen Resolution: 1920x1080
Processor: AMD Phenom 9500 @ 2.20GHz (4 Cores), Motherboard: ECS A790GXM-A v1.0, Chipset: AMD RS780 + SB700/SB800, Memory: 4096MB, Disk: 250GB Seagate ST3250310AS, Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT 256MB (540/702MHz), Audio: Realtek ALC888, Monitor: DELL S2409W
OS: Ubuntu 10.10, Kernel: 2.6.38-999-generic (x86_64), Desktop: GNOME 2.32.0, Display Server: X Server 1.9.0, Display Driver: nouveau 0.0.16, OpenGL: 2.1 Mesa 7.11-devel Gallium 0.4, Compiler: GCC 4.4.5, File-System: ext4, Screen Resolution: 1920x1080
Changed Graphics to NVIDIA GeForce GT 220 1024MB (625/950MHz).
Processor: AMD Phenom 9500 @ 2.20GHz (4 Cores), Motherboard: ECS A790GXM-A v1.0, Chipset: AMD RS780 + SB700/SB800, Memory: 4096MB, Disk: 250GB Seagate ST3250310AS, Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT 512MB (540/700MHz), Audio: Realtek ALC888
OS: Ubuntu 10.10, Kernel: 2.6.38-999-generic (x86_64), Desktop: GNOME 2.32.0, Display Server: X Server 1.9.0, Display Driver: NVIDIA 270.30, OpenGL: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 270.30, Compiler: GCC 4.4.5, File-System: ext4, Screen Resolution: 1920x1080
Changed Graphics to NVIDIA GeForce GT 220 1024MB (625/400MHz).
Processor: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T @ 3.20GHz (6 Cores), Motherboard: BIOSTAR TA890GXB HD, Chipset: AMD RS780, Memory: 8192MB, Disk: 1000GB Seagate ST31000528AS, Graphics: ATI Radeon HD 5700 1024MB (850/1200MHz), Monitor: DELL 2209WA
OS: Fedora release 14 (Laughlin), Kernel: 2.6.35.11-83.fc14.x86_64 (x86_64), Desktop: GNOME 2.32.0, Display Server: X Server 1.9.4, Display Driver: fglrx 8.82.8 Catalyst 10.12, OpenGL: 4.1.10524, Compiler: GCC 4.5.1, File-System: ext4, Screen Resolution: 1680x1050
System Notes: Compiz and Firefox were running on this system. SELinux: Enabled. AMD CnQ was enabled.
This is a test of OpenArena, a popular open-source first-person shooter. This game is based upon ioquake3, which in turn uses the GPL version of id Software's Quake 3 engine. Learn more via the OpenBenchmarking.org test page.
This is a benchmark of Nexuiz, a popular open-source first-person shooter. This game uses the DarkPlaces engine, which is a largely modified version of the Quake engine with extra features such as High Dynamic Range rendering and OpenGL 2.0 shaders. Learn more via the OpenBenchmarking.org test page.
Processor: AMD Phenom 9500 @ 2.20GHz (4 Cores), Motherboard: ECS A790GXM-A v1.0, Chipset: AMD RS780 + SB700/SB800, Memory: 4096MB, Disk: 250GB Seagate ST3250310AS, Graphics: AMD Radeon X1950 Pro, Audio: Realtek ALC888, Monitor: DELL S2409W
OS: Ubuntu 10.10, Kernel: 2.6.38-999-generic (x86_64), Desktop: GNOME 2.32.0, Display Server: X Server 1.9.0, Display Driver: radeon 6.14.99, OpenGL: 2.1 Mesa 7.11-devel Gallium 0.4, Compiler: GCC 4.4.5, File-System: ext4, Screen Resolution: 1920x1080
Testing initiated at 9 March 2011 22:28 by user phoronix.
Processor: AMD Phenom 9500 @ 2.20GHz (4 Cores), Motherboard: ECS A790GXM-A v1.0, Chipset: AMD RS780 + SB700/SB800, Memory: 4096MB, Disk: 250GB Seagate ST3250310AS, Graphics: AMD Radeon HD 4670 (750/1100MHz), Audio: Realtek ALC888, Monitor: DELL S2409W
OS: Ubuntu 10.10, Kernel: 2.6.38-999-generic (x86_64), Desktop: GNOME 2.32.0, Display Server: X Server 1.9.0, Display Driver: radeon 6.14.99, OpenGL: 2.1 Mesa 7.11-devel Gallium 0.4, Compiler: GCC 4.4.5, File-System: ext4, Screen Resolution: 1920x1080
Testing initiated at 9 March 2011 21:31 by user phoronix.
Processor: AMD Phenom 9500 @ 2.20GHz (4 Cores), Motherboard: ECS A790GXM-A v1.0, Chipset: AMD RS780 + SB700/SB800, Memory: 4096MB, Disk: 250GB Seagate ST3250310AS, Graphics: AMD Radeon HD 5450 (650/400MHz), Audio: Realtek ALC888, Monitor: DELL S2409W
OS: Ubuntu 10.10, Kernel: 2.6.38-999-generic (x86_64), Desktop: GNOME 2.32.0, Display Server: X Server 1.9.0, Display Driver: radeon 6.14.99, OpenGL: 2.1 Mesa 7.11-devel Gallium 0.4, Compiler: GCC 4.4.5, File-System: ext4, Screen Resolution: 1920x1080
Testing initiated at 9 March 2011 23:51 by user phoronix.
Processor: AMD Phenom 9500 @ 2.20GHz (4 Cores), Motherboard: ECS A790GXM-A v1.0, Chipset: AMD RS780 + SB700/SB800, Memory: 4096MB, Disk: 250GB Seagate ST3250310AS, Graphics: ATI Radeon HD 4600 512MB (750/1100MHz), Audio: Realtek ALC888, Monitor: DELL S2409W
OS: Ubuntu 10.10, Kernel: 2.6.35-27-generic (x86_64), Desktop: GNOME 2.32.0, Display Server: X Server 1.9.0, Display Driver: fglrx 8.82.8 Catalyst 11.2, OpenGL: 3.3.10524, Compiler: GCC 4.4.5, File-System: ext4, Screen Resolution: 1920x1080
Testing initiated at 10 March 2011 02:07 by user phoronix.
Processor: AMD Phenom 9500 @ 2.20GHz (4 Cores), Motherboard: ECS A790GXM-A v1.0, Chipset: AMD RS780 + SB700/SB800, Memory: 4096MB, Disk: 250GB Seagate ST3250310AS, Graphics: ATI Radeon HD 5450 512MB (650/400MHz), Audio: Realtek ALC888, Monitor: DELL S2409W
OS: Ubuntu 10.10, Kernel: 2.6.35-27-generic (x86_64), Desktop: GNOME 2.32.0, Display Server: X Server 1.9.0, Display Driver: fglrx 8.82.8 Catalyst 11.2, OpenGL: 4.1.10524, Compiler: GCC 4.4.5, File-System: ext4, Screen Resolution: 1920x1080
Testing initiated at 10 March 2011 01:44 by user phoronix.
Processor: AMD Phenom 9500 @ 2.20GHz (4 Cores), Motherboard: ECS A790GXM-A v1.0, Chipset: AMD RS780 + SB700/SB800, Memory: 4096MB, Disk: 250GB Seagate ST3250310AS, Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT 256MB (540/702MHz), Audio: Realtek ALC888, Monitor: DELL S2409W
OS: Ubuntu 10.10, Kernel: 2.6.38-999-generic (x86_64), Desktop: GNOME 2.32.0, Display Server: X Server 1.9.0, Display Driver: nouveau 0.0.16, OpenGL: 2.1 Mesa 7.11-devel Gallium 0.4, Compiler: GCC 4.4.5, File-System: ext4, Screen Resolution: 1920x1080
Testing initiated at 9 March 2011 20:30 by user phoronix.
Processor: AMD Phenom 9500 @ 2.20GHz (4 Cores), Motherboard: ECS A790GXM-A v1.0, Chipset: AMD RS780 + SB700/SB800, Memory: 4096MB, Disk: 250GB Seagate ST3250310AS, Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GT 220 1024MB (625/950MHz), Audio: Realtek ALC888, Monitor: DELL S2409W
OS: Ubuntu 10.10, Kernel: 2.6.38-999-generic (x86_64), Desktop: GNOME 2.32.0, Display Server: X Server 1.9.0, Display Driver: nouveau 0.0.16, OpenGL: 2.1 Mesa 7.11-devel Gallium 0.4, Compiler: GCC 4.4.5, File-System: ext4, Screen Resolution: 1920x1080
Testing initiated at 9 March 2011 19:30 by user phoronix.
Processor: AMD Phenom 9500 @ 2.20GHz (4 Cores), Motherboard: ECS A790GXM-A v1.0, Chipset: AMD RS780 + SB700/SB800, Memory: 4096MB, Disk: 250GB Seagate ST3250310AS, Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT 512MB (540/700MHz), Audio: Realtek ALC888
OS: Ubuntu 10.10, Kernel: 2.6.38-999-generic (x86_64), Desktop: GNOME 2.32.0, Display Server: X Server 1.9.0, Display Driver: NVIDIA 270.30, OpenGL: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 270.30, Compiler: GCC 4.4.5, File-System: ext4, Screen Resolution: 1920x1080
Testing initiated at 10 March 2011 13:31 by user phoronix.
Processor: AMD Phenom 9500 @ 2.20GHz (4 Cores), Motherboard: ECS A790GXM-A v1.0, Chipset: AMD RS780 + SB700/SB800, Memory: 4096MB, Disk: 250GB Seagate ST3250310AS, Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GT 220 1024MB (625/400MHz), Audio: Realtek ALC888
OS: Ubuntu 10.10, Kernel: 2.6.38-999-generic (x86_64), Desktop: GNOME 2.32.0, Display Server: X Server 1.9.0, Display Driver: NVIDIA 270.30, OpenGL: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 270.30, Compiler: GCC 4.4.5, File-System: ext4, Screen Resolution: 1920x1080
Testing initiated at 10 March 2011 13:50 by user phoronix.
Processor: AMD Phenom 9500 @ 2.20GHz (4 Cores), Motherboard: ECS A790GXM-A v1.0, Chipset: AMD RS780 + SB700/SB800, Memory: 4096MB, Disk: 250GB Seagate ST3250310AS, Graphics: AMD Radeon X1950 Pro, Audio: Realtek ALC888, Monitor: DELL S2409W
OS: Ubuntu 10.10, Kernel: 2.6.38-999-generic (x86_64), Desktop: GNOME 2.32.0, Display Server: X Server 1.9.0, Display Driver: radeon 6.14.99, OpenGL: 2.1 Mesa 7.11-devel Gallium 0.4, Compiler: GCC 4.4.5, File-System: ext4, Screen Resolution: 1920x1080
Testing initiated at 9 March 2011 22:04 by user phoronix.
Processor: AMD Phenom 9500 @ 2.20GHz (4 Cores), Motherboard: ECS A790GXM-A v1.0, Chipset: AMD RS780 + SB700/SB800, Memory: 4096MB, Disk: 250GB Seagate ST3250310AS, Graphics: AMD Radeon HD 4670 (750/1100MHz), Audio: Realtek ALC888, Monitor: DELL S2409W
OS: Ubuntu 10.10, Kernel: 2.6.38-999-generic (x86_64), Desktop: GNOME 2.32.0, Display Server: X Server 1.9.0, Display Driver: radeon 6.14.99, OpenGL: 2.1 Mesa 7.11-devel Gallium 0.4, Compiler: GCC 4.4.5, File-System: ext4, Screen Resolution: 1920x1080
Testing initiated at 9 March 2011 21:06 by user phoronix.
Processor: AMD Phenom 9500 @ 2.20GHz (4 Cores), Motherboard: ECS A790GXM-A v1.0, Chipset: AMD RS780 + SB700/SB800, Memory: 4096MB, Disk: 250GB Seagate ST3250310AS, Graphics: AMD Radeon HD 5450 (650/400MHz), Audio: Realtek ALC888, Monitor: DELL S2409W
OS: Ubuntu 10.10, Kernel: 2.6.38-999-generic (x86_64), Desktop: GNOME 2.32.0, Display Server: X Server 1.9.0, Display Driver: radeon 6.14.99, OpenGL: 2.1 Mesa 7.11-devel Gallium 0.4, Compiler: GCC 4.4.5, File-System: ext4, Screen Resolution: 1920x1080
Testing initiated at 9 March 2011 22:57 by user phoronix.
Processor: AMD Phenom 9500 @ 2.20GHz (4 Cores), Motherboard: ECS A790GXM-A v1.0, Chipset: AMD RS780 + SB700/SB800, Memory: 4096MB, Disk: 250GB Seagate ST3250310AS, Graphics: ATI Radeon HD 4600 512MB (750/1100MHz), Audio: Realtek ALC888, Monitor: DELL S2409W
OS: Ubuntu 10.10, Kernel: 2.6.35-27-generic (x86_64), Desktop: GNOME 2.32.0, Display Server: X Server 1.9.0, Display Driver: fglrx 8.82.8 Catalyst 11.2, OpenGL: 3.3.10524, Compiler: GCC 4.4.5, File-System: ext4, Screen Resolution: 1920x1080
Testing initiated at 10 March 2011 02:26 by user phoronix.
Processor: AMD Phenom 9500 @ 2.20GHz (4 Cores), Motherboard: ECS A790GXM-A v1.0, Chipset: AMD RS780 + SB700/SB800, Memory: 4096MB, Disk: 250GB Seagate ST3250310AS, Graphics: ATI Radeon HD 5450 512MB (650/400MHz), Audio: Realtek ALC888, Monitor: DELL S2409W
OS: Ubuntu 10.10, Kernel: 2.6.35-27-generic (x86_64), Desktop: GNOME 2.32.0, Display Server: X Server 1.9.0, Display Driver: fglrx 8.82.8 Catalyst 11.2, OpenGL: 4.1.10524, Compiler: GCC 4.4.5, File-System: ext4, Screen Resolution: 1920x1080
Testing initiated at 10 March 2011 01:21 by user phoronix.
Processor: AMD Phenom 9500 @ 2.20GHz (4 Cores), Motherboard: ECS A790GXM-A v1.0, Chipset: AMD RS780 + SB700/SB800, Memory: 4096MB, Disk: 250GB Seagate ST3250310AS, Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT 256MB (540/702MHz), Audio: Realtek ALC888, Monitor: DELL S2409W
OS: Ubuntu 10.10, Kernel: 2.6.38-999-generic (x86_64), Desktop: GNOME 2.32.0, Display Server: X Server 1.9.0, Display Driver: nouveau 0.0.16, OpenGL: 2.1 Mesa 7.11-devel Gallium 0.4, Compiler: GCC 4.4.5, File-System: ext4, Screen Resolution: 1920x1080
Testing initiated at 9 March 2011 20:04 by user phoronix.
Processor: AMD Phenom 9500 @ 2.20GHz (4 Cores), Motherboard: ECS A790GXM-A v1.0, Chipset: AMD RS780 + SB700/SB800, Memory: 4096MB, Disk: 250GB Seagate ST3250310AS, Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GT 220 1024MB (625/950MHz), Audio: Realtek ALC888, Monitor: DELL S2409W
OS: Ubuntu 10.10, Kernel: 2.6.38-999-generic (x86_64), Desktop: GNOME 2.32.0, Display Server: X Server 1.9.0, Display Driver: nouveau 0.0.16, OpenGL: 2.1 Mesa 7.11-devel Gallium 0.4, Compiler: GCC 4.4.5, File-System: ext4, Screen Resolution: 1920x1080
Testing initiated at 9 March 2011 18:52 by user phoronix.
Processor: AMD Phenom 9500 @ 2.20GHz (4 Cores), Motherboard: ECS A790GXM-A v1.0, Chipset: AMD RS780 + SB700/SB800, Memory: 4096MB, Disk: 250GB Seagate ST3250310AS, Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT 512MB (540/700MHz), Audio: Realtek ALC888
OS: Ubuntu 10.10, Kernel: 2.6.38-999-generic (x86_64), Desktop: GNOME 2.32.0, Display Server: X Server 1.9.0, Display Driver: NVIDIA 270.30, OpenGL: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 270.30, Compiler: GCC 4.4.5, File-System: ext4, Screen Resolution: 1920x1080
Testing initiated at 10 March 2011 13:15 by user phoronix.
Processor: AMD Phenom 9500 @ 2.20GHz (4 Cores), Motherboard: ECS A790GXM-A v1.0, Chipset: AMD RS780 + SB700/SB800, Memory: 4096MB, Disk: 250GB Seagate ST3250310AS, Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GT 220 1024MB (625/400MHz), Audio: Realtek ALC888
OS: Ubuntu 10.10, Kernel: 2.6.38-999-generic (x86_64), Desktop: GNOME 2.32.0, Display Server: X Server 1.9.0, Display Driver: NVIDIA 270.30, OpenGL: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 270.30, Compiler: GCC 4.4.5, File-System: ext4, Screen Resolution: 1920x1080
Testing initiated at 10 March 2011 14:07 by user phoronix.
Processor: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T @ 3.20GHz (6 Cores), Motherboard: BIOSTAR TA890GXB HD, Chipset: AMD RS780, Memory: 8192MB, Disk: 1000GB Seagate ST31000528AS, Graphics: ATI Radeon HD 5700 1024MB (850/1200MHz), Monitor: DELL 2209WA
OS: Fedora release 14 (Laughlin), Kernel: 2.6.35.11-83.fc14.x86_64 (x86_64), Desktop: GNOME 2.32.0, Display Server: X Server 1.9.4, Display Driver: fglrx 8.82.8 Catalyst 10.12, OpenGL: 4.1.10524, Compiler: GCC 4.5.1, File-System: ext4, Screen Resolution: 1680x1050
System Notes: Compiz and Firefox were running on this system. SELinux: Enabled. AMD CnQ was enabled.
Testing initiated at 18 March 2011 20:19 by user genixia.